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RC MODELI AVIONA - ELEKTRO => TRENAŽNI MODELI => Topic started by: rajevic on September 13, 2012, 09:33:40 PM

Title: Piper J3 Cub BB Depron
Post by: rajevic on September 13, 2012, 09:33:40 PM
Raspon krila 112 cm - Wing span = 44"
Dužina trupa 75 cm - Fuse length = 29.5"

Pozdrav svima želim podeliti sa vama jedan početnički model od deprona. Na samom početku da se predstavim ja sam Slobodan iz Valjeva i totalni sam početnik. Početkom ove godine počeo sam se interesovati za ovaj hobi i zagrizao sam. Prvi momenti su bili razmišljanje koji model i od čega praviti. Da ne dužim odluka je pala na modelu iz naslova. Sve što sam imao je dobra volja i vremena da ga napravim. Naravno model je rađen po nacrtima sa RCGroups-a LINK (http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1028141) pod nazivom BB J3 Cub (napravio BlueFFF). Skinuo sam planove odštampao i krenuo da sečem depron zeleni 6mm. Materijal za monoblok sam koristio stirodur 3+2=5cm roze. Od lepka sam koristio Henkel Moment WOOD standard jeste da se čeka duže za sušenje ali nisam žurio i proces je trajao malo duže od očekivanog.


Elektronika je naručena iz HobbyKing.com

MOTOR: D2826-10 1400kv Brushless Motor - LINK (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idproduct=12920)
REGLER: Hobbyking SS Series 25-30A ESC - LINK (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idproduct=6458)
SERVO: HKSCM9-5 Single Chip Digital Servo (5V) 10g / 1.4kg / 0.09s - LINK (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idproduct=16259)
PROPELER: APC style propeller 8x4-E - LINK (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idproduct=5437)
BATERIJA: Turnigy 2200mAh 3S 20C Lipo Pack - LINK (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idproduct=8932)
TOČKOVI: Lightweight Scale Wheel 55mm (2pc) - LINK (http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__23441__Lightweight_Scale_Wheel_55mm_2pc_.html)
STAJNI TRAP: 3.5mm elektroda za autogeno varenje ;)


RTF težina sa potežom baterijom je blizu 800 grama.  (<--)

Za početnika kao što sam ja poprilično sam iznenađen kako leti sa ovim setup-om. Ne mogu da grešim možda je malo jači ali za mene koji ga sad vozim na pola gasa je odličan.

SLIKE od početka do kraja gradnje...

Šablon isečen
(http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/8431/35747325.th.jpg) (http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/8431/35747325.jpg)

Krilo sa ramenjačom od drveta 5x5mm
(http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/2379/38156374.th.jpg) (http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/2379/38156374.jpg)

Monoblok sa dodatnim ojačanjem sa strane i sa sitnim izmenama hlađenja reglera i baterije
(http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/1746/27937869.th.jpg) (http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/1746/27937869.jpg) (http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/7875/10903580.th.jpg) (http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/7875/10903580.jpg) (http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/3350/10656446.th.jpg) (http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/3350/10656446.jpg) (http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/7159/78673145.th.jpg) (http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/7159/78673145.jpg) (http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/4144/31287061.th.jpg) (http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/4144/31287061.jpg) (http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/8764/11844448.th.jpg) (http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/8764/11844448.jpg) (http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/8738/72359749.th.jpg) (http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/8738/72359749.jpg) (http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/5351/20269229.th.jpg) (http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/5351/20269229.jpg) (http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/2601/44283064.th.jpg) (http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/2601/44283064.jpg) (http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/8226/44773078.th.jpg) (http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/8226/44773078.jpg) (http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/5120/38658944.th.jpg) (http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/5120/38658944.jpg) (http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/13/68860993.th.jpg) (http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/13/68860993.jpg) (http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/8924/55675267.th.jpg) (http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/8924/55675267.jpg) (http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/7158/13674284.th.jpg) (http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/7158/13674284.jpg) (http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/7189/81360905.th.jpg) (http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/7189/81360905.jpg)


Prostor za elekroniku ispod krila
(http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/6166/48057559.th.jpg) (http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/6166/48057559.jpg)
(http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/4844/29887906.th.jpg) (http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/4844/29887906.jpg)

Prostor za bateriju
(http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/1281/57256961.th.jpg) (http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/1281/57256961.jpg)

Zadnji deo trupa ojačan isto drvenim letvicama 5x5mm
(http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/3530/36111032.th.jpg) (http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/3530/36111032.jpg) (http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/1448/31654761.th.jpg) (http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/1448/31654761.jpg) (http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/6038/44248052.th.jpg) (http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/6038/44248052.jpg)


Rep ojačan štapićem za ražnjiće  :mhm
(http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/2940/97303045.th.jpg) (http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/2940/97303045.jpg) (http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/5915/58359415.th.jpg) (http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/5915/58359415.jpg) (http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/2190/66519947.th.jpg) (http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/2190/66519947.jpg) (http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/7268/40522749.th.jpg) (http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/7268/40522749.jpg)


Sve skupa za sad 249 grama
(http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/1352/68496403.th.jpg) (http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/1352/68496403.jpg)


Zalepljen kompletno model
(http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/92/25372717.th.jpg) (http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/92/25372717.jpg)

Farbanje modela je bilo sa providnim lakom za čamce na uljanoj bazi i pigment boje za krečenje žuta i crna. Farbano sa improvizovanom četkom od sunđera.
(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/3172/93931831.th.jpg) (http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/3172/93931831.jpg) (http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/3152/97874861.th.jpg) (http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/3152/97874861.jpg) (http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/2869/98755668.th.jpg) (http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/2869/98755668.jpg) (http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/8127/36743993.th.jpg) (http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/8127/36743993.jpg) (http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/4707/43387527.th.jpg) (http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/4707/43387527.jpg) (http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/6363/60446385.th.jpg) (http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/6363/60446385.jpg)

Model kompletiran sa SETUP-om
(http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/164/63339916.th.jpg) (http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/164/63339916.jpg) (http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/9480/92332141.th.jpg) (http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/9480/92332141.jpg) (http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/3400/90125152.th.jpg) (http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/3400/90125152.jpg) (http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/4074/46598836.th.jpg) (http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/4074/46598836.jpg) (http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/1845/68272829.th.jpg) (http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/1845/68272829.jpg) (http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/1760/31965824.th.jpg) (http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/1760/31965824.jpg)

Stajni trap i poklopac koji je naknadno izmenjen i dorađen
(http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/3482/44277522.th.jpg) (http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/3482/44277522.jpg) (http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/8281/40338888.th.jpg) (http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/8281/40338888.jpg)

Kormilo dubine i pravca improvizacija sa kreditnom karticom za horne i šipke sa kinez kišobrana plus zadnja drljača improvizacija drvo-čelična šipka opruga
(http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1344/36334980v.th.jpg) (http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1344/36334980v.jpg)

Upornice pravljene od silka radi sigurnosti
(http://img802.imageshack.us/img802/4384/51996062.th.jpg) (http://img802.imageshack.us/img802/4384/51996062.jpg)

Servoi i elektronika
(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/7778/30896322.th.jpg) (http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/7778/30896322.jpg) (http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/5499/72389555.th.jpg) (http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/5499/72389555.jpg)

Slike na livadi spreman za prvi let
(http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/8728/51114910.th.jpg) (http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/8728/51114910.jpg) (http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/6894/49195816.th.jpg) (http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/6894/49195816.jpg) (http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/6807/27818341.th.jpg) (http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/6807/27818341.jpg) (http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/8431/40236587.th.jpg) (http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/8431/40236587.jpg) (http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/1611/15890134.th.jpg) (http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/1611/15890134.jpg)




prvi let vemo kratak VIDEO 0 (https://vimeo.com/46533587)
VIDEO 1 (https://vimeo.com/49187933)
VIDEO 2 (https://vimeo.com/49332032)
Title: Re: Piper J3 Cub BB Depron
Post by: aca405 on October 13, 2012, 08:27:28 PM
Prelep trenažni model, lepo napravljen.

Sviđa mi se kolor šema.

Sigurno si zainteresovao još nekog početnika da preko zime napravi nešto slično.
 :)aplauz
Title: Re: Piper J3 Cub BB Depron
Post by: rajevic on October 17, 2012, 12:00:58 PM
Hvala. Mogu samo da prenesm ko je pocetnik kao ja da sam naucio na njemu da vozim i da je model za iste solidan. Ne podnosi vetar tako da sam ga vozio po mirnom vremenu. Sve u svemu model je posluzio za obuku i osnove letenja. Posto mi je ovo prvi model koji sam pravio uskoro sledi drugi Ultimate Biplane koji se uveliko radi pa ce mozda biti vise price i onjemu.
Title: Re: Piper J3 Cub BB Depron
Post by: Dzivdzan on June 04, 2013, 02:28:31 PM
Čestitke za divan model i perfektnu izradu,
Kako si izveo upornice - konkretno kačenje na krila, kačenje na trup se vidi.
Pozdrav :)aplauz
Title: Re: Piper J3 Cub BB Depron
Post by: gile99 on June 07, 2013, 10:53:46 PM
Pozdrav,
tata i ja smo hteli da napravimo ovaj avion, ali ne ne znamo sta sa daljinskim, prijemnik-predajnik..Tako nesto! Moze neko to malo da pojasni i da li od necega gore navedenog ima za daljinksi?
Title: Re: Piper J3 Cub BB Depron
Post by: Gagi kv on June 08, 2013, 05:35:16 PM
http://www.rcfly4um.org/index.php/topic,11416.0.html
 (<--)
Title: Re: Piper J3 Cub BB Depron
Post by: zbabic on June 09, 2013, 07:45:42 AM
Lepo uradjen model, cestitke!Lepo leti, dugo da sluzi!
Title: Re: Piper J3 Cub BB Depron
Post by: bjanko on June 09, 2013, 08:40:40 AM
bas lepo odadjeno svaka cast
Pozdrav
Title: Re: Piper J3 Cub BB Depron
Post by: firebird on June 09, 2013, 11:09:16 AM
Bas mi se svidja, super si ga odradio  :)aplauz
Title: Re: Piper J3 Cub BB Depron iz Niša
Post by: Dzivdzan on July 28, 2013, 09:31:24 AM
Evo i jednog iz Niša!
Spreman za poletanje ali je bilo vetrovito ovih dana (bar za nas dvojicu početnika),
Hvala Blue FFF za izvanredne planove i rajeviću za veoma korisne fotografije izrade.
Pozdrav svima!

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Title: Re: Piper J3 Cub BB Depron
Post by: rajevic on July 28, 2013, 10:41:22 AM
BRAVO  ()-() (<--)
Title: Re: Piper J3 Cub BB Depron
Post by: mad_mangod on July 28, 2013, 01:27:01 PM
Prvo pozdrav za Nislije a onda  (res) za lep Cub!!!
Title: Re: Piper J3 Cub BB Depron
Post by: Dzivdzan on July 30, 2013, 11:49:29 PM
HVALA!
 (pijemo)

Čim vreme i obaveze dozvole polećemo, pa ako uspe eto i videa.
Title: Re: Piper J3 Cub BB Depron
Post by: mkrle on October 21, 2013, 10:13:35 PM
Veliki pozdrav i dobrodošao u klub modelara "Beloglavi Sup".
Javi se preko privatne poruke, pozdrav Krle
Title: Re: Piper J3 Cub BB Depron
Post by: gile99 on November 11, 2013, 05:56:20 PM
Posto je malo zahladnelo, odlucio sam da pravim pajpera. Izgubio trup od letos moram da praivm novi, hehe. (http://www.dodaj.rs/f/3u/Hv/4JN40EI0/1/vrela-zica.png) Da li sam dobro nacrtao semu vrele zice? Sto se tice izoflora, da li je to ovaj: http://www.lajsne.net/izoflor1.htm (http://www.lajsne.net/izoflor1.htm) (6mm bez zlebova) tj. http://www.ljubovija.com/plo%C4%8Dasti-i-gra%C4%91evinski-meterijali/izolacije/proizvod/2592-izo-floor-6-mm/category_pathway-255 (http://www.ljubovija.com/plo%C4%8Dasti-i-gra%C4%91evinski-meterijali/izolacije/proizvod/2592-izo-floor-6-mm/category_pathway-255) Pozz
Title: Re: Piper J3 Cub BB Depron
Post by: Jedrilicar on November 11, 2013, 10:23:32 PM
Gile, na ovaj način bi ti verovatno izgorela ova svetleća dioda, preveliki je to napon za nju, ako ga ovako direktno dovodis sa ispravljača, a i ne vidim neku njenu posebnu svrhu ovde. Ostalo mi se čini da je u redu (sto se povezivanja tiče). Pozdrav.
Title: Re: Piper J3 Cub BB Depron
Post by: gile99 on November 11, 2013, 11:14:37 PM
Znam da bi izgorela. :) Stavicu otpornik, imam iskustva kad sam kuciste malo modifikovao i ubacivao diode i led traku. Ta dioda sluzi za ukras, kobajagi da znam da se zica greje, hehe. Znate li mozda da li je dobar taj izo-flor sto sam nasao. Narucio bih sutra 2-m2 ako je to taj koji se koristi.
Pozz
Title: Re: Piper J3 Cub BB Depron
Post by: Cvrc on July 22, 2014, 10:18:32 PM
Imam problem sa ovim modelom, kako god ga podesio i namestio vecito mi se u letu okrece u levo. Ne da skrece, nego kao da mu aileroni nisu ravno, ali jesu... Nemam pojma sta da radim vise cak sam danas iscupao antene iz risivera kad sam ga slupao  :sljus
Title: Re: Piper J3 Cub BB Depron
Post by: vpanin on July 22, 2014, 10:35:39 PM
Imam problem sa ovim modelom, kako god ga podesio i namestio vecito mi se u letu okrece u levo. Ne da skrece, nego kao da mu aileroni nisu ravno, ali jesu... Nemam pojma sta da radim vise cak sam danas iscupao antene iz risivera kad sam ga slupao  :sljus
Ne chupaj nista, proveri geometriju modela
Title: Re: Piper J3 Cub BB Depron
Post by: sasa on July 23, 2014, 10:02:45 PM

Ne chupaj nista, proveri geometriju modela

 :sljus  :_D

Pa nije on namerno nista cupao .  :sljus
Title: Re: Piper J3 Cub BB Depron
Post by: Cvrc on July 23, 2014, 11:08:49 PM
Nisam, ali nisam hteo da ga ispravljam  lol
Title: Re: Piper J3 Cub BB Depron
Post by: Tolimir on February 26, 2015, 04:29:13 PM
Evo da se i ja prijavim i pohvalim sa prvim radom ovde gde sam dobio ideju :) Posle kupovine tb-20 i prvih pokusaja letenja imao sam malih problema pri poletanju i naginjanja u levu stranu. Proveravao sam i simetriju i sve nastelovao ali kad sam poslednji put uzletao, kratko sam leteo i malo ga olivadio :)))) Ja sam kriv jer je bilo bas vetrovito ali nestrpljenje je prevladalo...a i Zajko ce verovatno da me ogadi jer mi je lepo savetovao da probam bez tockova. No, sta je tu je, tb-20 je oporavljen, male pukotine su sanirane ali ja resio da ga ne letium dok ne naucim dobro da letim :) Onda sam odlucio da pravim prvi avion i ovaj Piper mi se svideo kao prvenac za obuku :) Ako se i olivadi, lako se krpi i pravi nov za kratko vreme :) Evo ga prvenac:

(http://www.msmalbaski.com/1/1a.jpg)
(http://www.msmalbaski.com/1/2a.jpg)

Sad sledi smirglanje, pa da ga uskoro sastavimo i letimo. Necu ga farbati dok ne poleti i vidim da je sve ok. Za pocetak bih bez elerona :)
I pitanje za iskusne: od ove sheme se moze odstupati? tj. da li moze da se srazmerno umanji ili uveca, a da to ne utice na ispravnost?
Title: Re: Piper J3 Cub BB Depron
Post by: Dulence on February 26, 2015, 04:43:08 PM
@tolimir
Moze plan za piper?
e-mail dusan_bazovic@hotmail.com
Title: Re: Piper J3 Cub BB Depron
Post by: Tolimir on February 26, 2015, 05:16:59 PM
Imas u prvom postu rajevica...u trecem redu drugog pasusa "LINK". On te odvede na forum gde su postavljeni fajlovi sa shemama (na dnu imas poseban deo "FILES"). Ako ti to problem kazi, ja cu ti poslati na mail pdf-ove sa tog foruma :)

edit: sad sam ti i poslao na mail :)
Title: Re: Piper J3 Cub BB Depron
Post by: Dulence on February 26, 2015, 05:53:27 PM
Imas u prvom postu rajevica...u trecem redu drugog pasusa "LINK". On te odvede na forum gde su postavljeni fajlovi sa shemama (na dnu imas poseban deo "FILES"). Ako ti to problem kazi, ja cu ti poslati na mail pdf-ove sa tog foruma :)

edit: sad sam ti i poslao na mail :)

Ok hvala  :big smile
Title: Re: Piper J3 Cub BB Depron
Post by: sloba_b on February 26, 2015, 10:42:33 PM
Lepo si napravio model ;) ,trebao si slikati postupak jer bi on pokaza ako se eventualno pojavila neka greska.
Svaki plan moze da se uveca ili smanji s tim da manje promene mogu bez velikog razmisljanja da se odrade dok znatnije trebaju da budu propracene konstrukcionim promenama u vidu pojacavanja ili oslabljivanja pojedinih delova.  Mislim da ces imati problem sa upravljanjem tj prevrtanjem modela u letu tako bez elerona al eto nek kaze neko iskusniji, da cujes jos necije misljenje. Po meni lepo je sto si napravio V oblik krila ali mislim da je ugao i dr malo za let bez elerona.
Title: Re: Piper J3 Cub BB Depron
Post by: Tolimir on February 27, 2015, 12:01:35 PM
Nisam fotkao postupak pravljenja jer sam radio po postupku rajevica...pa da ne dupliram fotke i opterecujem ljude kad vec postoji postupak. V ugao sam napravio sa maksimalnim u planu (postoji manji i veci ugao u planu). Sto se tice elerona to sam citao na forumu da neki prave bez elerona, lete, pa kasnije urade i elerone  mmmm Mozda ce neko iskusniji sa Piperom da kaze nesto u vezi toga :)