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RC MODELI AVIONA - ELEKTRO => SCALE MODELI => Topic started by: ivanmagd on October 07, 2011, 09:47:25 PM

Title: Giant EPO Cessna 182 Skylane
Post by: ivanmagd on October 07, 2011, 09:47:25 PM
Evo sta je doletelo u moj hangar pre neki dan, radi se o Giant EPO Cessna 182, mislim da slobodno mogu reci da je najlepsi avion koji sam imao, raspona 1,9 m elektro pogona mada je motor koji sam dobio uz nju meni nepoznat jer nema nikakvu oznaku na sebi, izgleda kao neki 4250 ili sl, bateriju jos nisam pazario ali mislim da ce leteti sa nekom 5s 3-4000, uz nju sam dobio i plovke jedino me brine sto su teski 500 gr, ceo avion je 2500 gr na poletanju a sa plovcima 3000gr, prilicno tesko za epo avion ali koliko sam video prilicno je robustan i velik trup i izgleda kao veoma tvrd avion. Slike i snimci sa prvih letova bice objavljeni cim nabavim bateriju i vreme dozvoli jer nam se od sutra ne smeska sunce u neko skorije vreme. Na slikama sam samo stavio avion preko plovaka bez montiranja pa izgleda malo grubo.

Title: Re: Giant EPO Cessna 182 Skylane
Post by: djbojan on October 07, 2011, 09:59:14 PM
Super si pazario!    ()-()

Ja imam identican model samo nesto manji, raspon krila 1400mm, ali tako lepo leti da je fenomenalno, znaci kad ga vidis, kao da je pravi avion.


   
Title: Re: Giant EPO Cessna 182 Skylane
Post by: n3mke on October 08, 2011, 12:12:02 AM
Bolje noz u ledja da si mi zabio! Ako budem pri kesu otkupicu cesnu cisto da vidimo kako gori ;)
btw da te dugo sluzi iako je ruzna! :)  ()-()
Title: Re: Giant EPO Cessna 182 Skylane
Post by: zajko on October 08, 2011, 12:56:02 AM
 :)aplauz   cestitamo Ivane  :)aplauz
Motor je: 3647 out-runner brushless KV800 - ESC 45A- predvidjena batttery 3300 mah 14.8V 25C sa 14x7 prop... !
Ne znam da li ce da trpi 5S, zavisi od ESC-pa, valjda... 3740 motor trpi 5S, ali svakako treba po meni staviti neku od 5Ah
Li-po ili 2 x pararel 3.3Ah... mislim da bi svakako na nju trebalo staviti neke vece tockove 100mm, i svakako LED rasvetu.
Posto su nam zalihe ALFE i ARROW, jako utanjile, od proleca ce ovo biti avion za obuku u Maloj Ivanci, odlican za ucenje na duple komande...
Ne znam samo kako bi se EPO ponasao sa nekim Glow motorom od 10 cc !!??

Evo par korisnih saveta kojim cu se ja rukovoditi kod sklapanja moje iste Cessne (iskusni ljudi):
 (pijanoo)(http://img.throttlestore.com/viewfile.aspx?mmfId=29991)
 (pijanoo)(http://img.throttlestore.com/viewfile.aspx?mmfId=29985)
 (pijanoo)(http://img.throttlestore.com/viewfile.aspx?mmfId=30566)

Building tips:
The model is delivered from the manufacturer with very long steel push rods for controlling the rudder and the elevator. This is a simple way of controlling the elevator and rudder, and it is ok for average and scale flying. But it is not a precise, and professional good enough methode if you like to do some aerobatic or 3D performance with the model.
Therefore we chosed another way to control the elevator and the rudder to make the movement more precise. Please read the description and check out the pictures below. It is up to you what methode you chose.
Probably the smartest and most accurate way is to mount two micro servos recessed into the rear wing (as it is done on the ailerons and flaps) and connect them together with Y-cable and extension cable to the receiver. The same method can be applied to the rudder with a powerful micro servo mounted in the middle of the rudder fin. You can, if desired, mount a rudder horn and a push rod on each side of the rudder. Then you get a completely stable and balanced push-pull system for the rudder. Check the pictures below and see how we did this. The pictures also show how we have inserted an extra rudder hinge. We have deliberately put the cables on the outside, so it is easy to understand the solution. Use a sharp knife to make an incision in the EPO to hide the cables and seal with some glue. Mount the servos for the elevator exactly as the picture shows, if you do not use a radio with mix for two elevator servos. We recommend using micro servos to avoid the model from being tail heavy. For this solution you need: 1x powerful mini servo for rudder, 2x medium powerful micro servos for the elevator, 1x Y cable and 2x extension wires of 50-60cm, plus four micro servos for ailerons and flaps. We also recommend to move the nose wheel servo to the front, as the picture shows, to get 100 % precise control of the nose wheel steering.
Waterflying on floats:
For the first test flight select a day with a light breeze and 5 - 10 cm high waves on the water.
Taking off when it is calm and mirror-smooth water is much more difficult! Check out the video where flaps and use of the ailerons is used to rip the plane off the sucking calm water surface.
OBRATI PAZNJU na 0:15 sec kad desnim aileronom podigne levo Float da lakse izadje iz vode !!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfiP6tFE27c&feature=player_embedded

Evo je lutka na travi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chBO6Ri283M&feature=related

Uzivaj  (<--)
Title: Re: Giant EPO Cessna 182 Skylane
Post by: POSEIDON on October 08, 2011, 09:39:46 AM
Pazi kad sam znao da si nju kupio  (pijemo)...lepa mašina...ima ovde korisnih saveta  http://www.bungymania.com/cessna182stm/index.html
Title: Re: Giant EPO Cessna 182 Skylane
Post by: Gabor on October 08, 2011, 11:09:25 AM
Lepo, lepo. Nek te dugo služi! Ako još nisi imao prilike da letiš model ovih dimenzija, onda ćeš videti, sasvim su drugačiji  :jaki:

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Title: Re: Giant EPO Cessna 182 Skylane
Post by: POSEIDON on October 08, 2011, 11:18:36 AM
To je istina...od svih aviončića koje sam leteo onaj veliki piper cub od 2metra raspona...je bio najpitomiji i daleko upravljiviji od svih modela.
Title: Re: Giant EPO Cessna 182 Skylane
Post by: ivanmagd on October 10, 2011, 09:12:40 AM
Iako je jos nisam leteo svaki put kad prodjem pored nje iznenadim se koliko je lepa  :)aplauz hahahahahahah, Zajko  za bateriju cu videti probacu i izmeriti prvo sa 5s da vidim sta se dogadja sa amperima, probacu je sa onom elisom koju sam dobio uz nju mislim da je nesto kao 12x8 a mislim da je 14x7 prevelika za onaj motor, imam jednu 14x8 pa cu probati i sa njom. Gabore leteo sam vec velike avione i znam osecaj, istina je da su veliki avioni mnogo mirniji i pitomiji od malih ali isto tako je i konstruktivno krilo od balze mnogo cvrsce od krila izradjenog od EPO koje je na krajevima krila izuzetno savitljivo i mislim da i to moze uticati na preciznost letenja, no videcu sve kad poletim za sada ovo vreme nema nameru da popusta pa imam vremena da se igram sa stvarima koje je Zajko naveo a koje bi trebalo da se rese drugacije od fabrickog uputsva.

Nemanja dok ti zavrsis onu tvoju ja cu verovatno ovu izvozati jednu sezonu, naigrati se i verovatno je prodati  (--<<--)
Title: Re: Giant EPO Cessna 182 Skylane
Post by: n3mke on October 10, 2011, 03:17:47 PM
Imas srece sto je zima inace bih rekao Veljku da se pozabavi cesnom. :P
Title: Re: Giant EPO Cessna 182 Skylane
Post by: IvanGrozni on October 10, 2011, 05:54:06 PM
Imas srece sto je zima inace bih rekao Veljku da se pozabavi cesnom. :P

Vidiš Nemke, čudni su modelarski putevi. neko sa stiroporaca prelazi na balzu a neko obrnuto. Ja ti kažem, praviće taj i modele od izoflora.  :big smile
Inače bio sam sa njim kada je kupovao model, koji uživo izgleda fenomenalno dobro. Mada sam bio više da uzme mentora H9.

Poz.
Title: Re: Giant EPO Cessna 182 Skylane
Post by: n3mke on October 10, 2011, 06:56:46 PM
Ma kukace on za balzom videces! :) Ako mene pitas jedini dobar stiroporac je pravljeni stiroporac, ovi kupovni scale su  (___)
Title: Re: Giant EPO Cessna 182 Skylane
Post by: ivanmagd on October 10, 2011, 07:15:25 PM
Zli jezici  0e
Title: Re: Giant EPO Cessna 182 Skylane
Post by: POSEIDON on October 10, 2011, 07:36:39 PM
Ma samo mu nabaciš plovke....i piči po snegu (<--)
Title: Re: Giant EPO Cessna 182 Skylane
Post by: Schwab on October 11, 2011, 11:22:02 AM
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Title: Re: Giant EPO Cessna 182 Skylane
Post by: zajko on October 12, 2011, 09:45:17 PM
stigla jos jedna Cessna 182 kao ova samo ARF bez icega u sebi, ima samo dusu !!! (pijanoo)