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Title: Vojni muzej u Briselu
Post by: drjack on September 29, 2013, 02:42:01 AM
Vojni muzej u Briselu sadrži veoma bogatu kolekciju eksponata iz vremena Napoleona pa na ovamo.
Ako Vas put nanese tamo, treba pogledati sve. Odmah pored se nalazi  i muzej automobila, koji cu
nadam se obici nekom drugom prilikom, jer sada nije bilo vremena.   

Razlog zbog koga  sam  tamo svratio, bila je  odlična  kolekcja aviona i helikoptera.
To je mix letelica od pocetaka letenja pa do novije istorije korištenih u Belgiji ali i drugih modela.
U kolekciji se nalazi i dosta Francuskih aviona iz I svetskog rata.
Jedini problem bio je taj, što su svi natpisi   na Francuskom, s kojim ja nisam bas u ljubavi.

Zato sam sve slikao pa uživajte:

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Title: Re: Vojni muzej u Briselu
Post by: chupko on September 29, 2013, 08:41:42 PM
Super su slike doktore :)aplauz.Ovaj beli ultra laki sa delta krilima 00 68 koji je to avion?Deluje mi da nije bas za muzej mmmm .I ovaj na kraju mi se svidja,jel to DC-3
Title: Re: Vojni muzej u Briselu
Post by: saxpg on September 29, 2013, 09:05:15 PM
Hvala za slike i finu ideju za posjetu ovom muzeju. Nikad mi ne bi pal na pamet da u Briselu ima ovako nesto.
Title: Re: Vojni muzej u Briselu
Post by: drjack on September 29, 2013, 09:25:05 PM
Cupko imas ostro oko taj veliki jeste DC 3 i dobro je ocuvan,
Taj mali beli ultralight,  ne znam uopste koji je. Video sam ga negde na netu.
Kolekcija je mesana pa ima i aviona koji uopste nemaju veze sa ratovanjem.

Evo ovde spiska sa slikama cele postavke:
http://www.airmuseum.be/aircraftondisplay/


Saxpig nisam ni ja znao do pre neki dan da imaju ovakav  muzej a tamo sam vec treci put.
Ne odrzavaju ga kao sto bi to Englezi u Hendonu, dosta ih je koji vise  odozgo prasnjavi, fale i natpisi alli je vrlo interesantno.
Kolekcija vojnih vozila je taklodje vrhunska ....
Title: Re: Vojni muzej u Briselu
Post by: tataBulik on September 29, 2013, 09:33:59 PM
Što bi naši rekli, osevapio si se što si ove fotke podijelio sa nama  :)aplauz, pravo uživanje!!!

Zanima me je li onaj izgorjeli što mu je samo trup očuvan, njemački Albatros iz IWW? Imao je prvi vodeno hlađeni avionski motor (Dajmler Benc).
Title: Re: Vojni muzej u Briselu
Post by: drjack on September 30, 2013, 12:30:44 AM
Albatros je vrlo slican ovom modelu i nasledio ga je kao bolji model u jesen 1916 g. Ovde se radi o lovcu  "Halberstadt" i koriscen je dosta  za izvidjanje.

Evo table koju sam takodje slikao pa  prekucaj u Google translate:

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a evo i korisnog linka:

http://www.wwiaviation.com/Halberstadt.html
Title: Re: Vojni muzej u Briselu
Post by: mirce on September 30, 2013, 08:29:53 AM
Hvala za slike...  :)aplauz :)aplauz :)aplauz

Title: Re: Vojni muzej u Briselu
Post by: chupko on September 30, 2013, 11:17:06 AM
Kad smo vec kod muzeja I muzejskih exponata,nedavno sam cuo da na svetu nepostoji ni jedna citava svapska Stuka.
Title: Re: Vojni muzej u Briselu
Post by: mirce on September 30, 2013, 02:02:52 PM
Ja znam za jednu u Bečeju... Nije čitava, ali biće...  ;namig
Title: Re: Vojni muzej u Briselu
Post by: tibeteagle on September 30, 2013, 02:45:31 PM
Dr. Jack, hava na slikama  i sa moje strane. Lep gest od tebe da podeliš svoj lep doživljaj sa ovom virtualnom modelarskom zajednicom.  (thumb) (thumb) (thumb) (thumb) (:good)
Ako ima još slika, čekamo ih. Ne mari da je na francuskom.   :)aplauz
Title: Re: Vojni muzej u Briselu
Post by: drjack on September 30, 2013, 04:10:33 PM
Quote from: chupko on September 30, 2013, 11:17:06 AM
Kad smo vec kod muzeja I muzejskih exponata,nedavno sam cuo da na svetu nepostoji ni jedna citava svapska Stuka.

Ima najmanje jedna  Štuka u Rafovom muzeju u Hendonu.  Odlicno izgleda kao uostalom i svi avioni tamo.
Englezi u muzeju izgleda  imaju bogatiju  kolekciju nemackih aviona nego Švabe u Nemackoj. 
Nedavno su izvukli sa dna Lamanša  jednog Dornijera Do 17  i sada ga restauriraju.
Više o tome na ovom linku:
http://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/blog/volunteer-support-of-dornier-17-conservation/ (http://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/blog/volunteer-support-of-dornier-17-conservation/)

Dakle, ne da imaju Stuku nego su tu  i Heinkel 111 sve sa BMW motorima. Me 109 2 kom. pa me 262 i 163 -ludilo ....  to stvarno treba videti.
Uostalom evo ti ovde link , to sam davno okacio pa malo pogledaj:

http://www.rcfly4um.org/index.php/topic,4879.0.html (http://www.rcfly4um.org/index.php/topic,4879.0.html)

Laslo ima jos slika ubacicu veceras...
Title: Re: Vojni muzej u Briselu
Post by: miša2002 on September 30, 2013, 04:15:34 PM
@tibeteagle
Pitanje je:
Quote from: chupko on September 29, 2013, 08:41:42 PM
Super su slike doktore :)aplauz.Ovaj beli ultra laki sa delta krilima 00 68 koji je to avion?Deluje mi da nije bas za muzej mmmm .I ovaj na kraju mi se svidja,jel to DC-3

(http://64.19.142.12/i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z324/Dragan_Radalj/War%20museum%20Brussel/Picture158_zps34abdedf.jpg) (http://www.airmuseum.be/aircraftondisplay/images/glider7.jpg)

pa ako možeš o tom modelu nešto...
Title: Re: Vojni muzej u Briselu
Post by: drjack on September 30, 2013, 07:28:39 PM
Malo sam pogledao na netu i pronasao vise detalja. Priča je zanimljiva.

Dakle radi se o modelu Pottier P 40

Konstuktor je Jean Pottier koji je osim ovog konstruisao jos mnogo modela. Mnogo njegovih aviona je izradjeno u kucnoj radinosti ali je model u muzeju jedini preostali P40. U njega je ugradjen VW 1200 motor od 25 KS. Prvi put je poleteo u Francuskoj 1975g.

Jean Pottier je kasnije postao predsednik Francuske asocijacije graditelja aviona kucne izrade. Njegov zadnji model bio je P320 sa kojim je na zalost stradao 2004g.

Karakteristike P40

Raspon: 19 ft 8.25 in (6.00 m)
Dužina: 8 ft 6.25 in (2.60 m)
Visina: 3 ft 11.25 in (1.20 m)
Max brzina: 113 mph (182 kmh)
Krstareća brzina: 98 mph (158 kmh)
Plafon leta: 9,500 ft (2,896 m)
Dolet: 375 mls (604 km)"
Title: Re: Vojni muzej u Briselu
Post by: drjack on September 30, 2013, 08:14:48 PM
Evo jos slika:


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Ova jedrilica je izuzetno mala, mozda raspona nekih 5 m, nema natpisa ne znam koja je, mozda je neko prepozna.

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Title: Re: Vojni muzej u Briselu
Post by: sasa on October 02, 2013, 06:29:38 PM
A koja je zemlja ratovala sa ovim motornim zmajem  :hehe  :_D