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Title: Pilatus Porter pc 6
Post by: Decky on February 07, 2015, 09:28:19 AM

Novi projekat za 2015
305 cm raspon krila
30 ccm
Kolor šema?
Spremno za sečenje na laseru

Title: Re: Pilatus Porter pc 6
Post by: Decky on February 07, 2015, 09:29:54 AM

Predlog kolor šeme

Title: Re: Pilatus Porter pc 6
Post by: Decky on February 07, 2015, 09:31:03 AM

 (work)

Title: Re: Pilatus Porter pc 6
Post by: mirce on February 07, 2015, 09:52:24 AM

Super projekat, samo napred...

Inače, Pilatus od te firme se pravi na Avali, ali mislim da je manji, čini mi se 2600 mm razmaha.

Bilo bi lepo da detaljno prikažeš gradnju...

 (pijemo)

Title: Re: Pilatus Porter pc 6
Post by: magic on February 07, 2015, 10:26:58 AM

I mene zanima ovaj model! Ko to pravi na Avali?

poz

Title: Re: Pilatus Porter pc 6
Post by: rajevic on February 07, 2015, 12:00:05 PM

Bravo Dejane s novom godinom u nov projekat VELIKOG modela i to pilatusa. Svaka cast. Sa srecom....  (res)  ()-()  (<--)

Title: Re: Pilatus Porter pc 6
Post by: sloba_b on February 07, 2015, 07:10:21 PM

http://www.rctecnic.com/5888-thickbox_default/pilatus-pc-6-tiger-ep-gp-vq-model-rc-scale-airplanes-rctecnic.jpg

 (<--)

Title: Re: Pilatus Porter pc 6
Post by: Decky on February 07, 2015, 09:01:42 PM

Hvala Rajeviću za crteže
Sad je u toku spremanje za laser a u toku sedmice sečenje
Biće sličica naravno
Da nije neko pravio kapotaž za pilatusa?

Title: Re: Pilatus Porter pc 6
Post by: aerofly on February 08, 2015, 10:52:43 AM

Svaka cast na izboru modela a i razmere  ;namig :)aplauz

Title: Re: Pilatus Porter pc 6
Post by: Miloskole on February 09, 2015, 08:07:32 AM

Odličan izbor :) ubaci neke slike tokom izgradnje modela :)

Title: Re: Pilatus Porter pc 6
Post by: Decky on February 11, 2015, 03:14:18 PM

Počelo sečenje  ()-()

Title: Re: Pilatus Porter pc 6
Post by: rajevic on February 11, 2015, 05:04:04 PM

Opasna "rabota" sa srecom  (pijemo)

Title: Re: Pilatus Porter pc 6
Post by: misha on February 18, 2015, 09:33:35 AM

Mozda bi za tu velicinu modela trebao jaci motor.Bar 45cc

https://mraerodesign.securicom.ca/en/products/info.cfm?ProduitID=8

Title: Re: Pilatus Porter pc 6
Post by: Decky on February 18, 2015, 09:56:07 AM

Mozda promenimo do kraja gradnje
Hvala!

Title: Re: Pilatus Porter pc 6
Post by: Dakyle on February 18, 2015, 10:59:13 AM

Odlican projekat, a jaci motor definitivno mora da legne tu.

Title: Re: Pilatus Porter pc 6
Post by: Decky on March 01, 2015, 11:45:36 PM

Danas počelo sklapanje modela.

Title: Re: Pilatus Porter pc 6
Post by: bjanko on March 02, 2015, 07:11:21 AM

Prelep model samo napred

Title: Re: Pilatus Porter pc 6
Post by: misha on March 02, 2015, 10:23:35 AM

Neka je sa srecom pocetak. Bice to lep i ogroman model.

Title: Re: Pilatus Porter pc 6
Post by: Gabor on March 02, 2015, 04:14:41 PM

Za mene jedan od omiljenih modela... Pratim gradnju modela  :)aplauz

Title: Re: Pilatus Porter pc 6
Post by: Miloskole on March 03, 2015, 07:40:48 PM

Mozda bi avion sa motorom od 30ccm leteo realnije mada nikad nije lose imati viska snage :)

Title: Re: Pilatus Porter pc 6
Post by: dejan_ts on March 04, 2015, 12:06:16 AM

jel se na tom modelu trazi reala ili extrem,ljudi sto ste navrali za jaci motor,nema potrebe za njim,velik model,solidno velika povrsina,to ima da pliva po vazduhu samo tako

svaka cast na zapocetim radovima i zelim ti brzo sastavljanje

P.S. kad neide onda batali na neki dan pa ce krenuti samo od sebe  :)

Title: Re: Pilatus Porter pc 6
Post by: Gabor on March 04, 2015, 04:16:48 PM

(http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu12/gabor-lastovic/RC%20terep/IMG_7702_zps016b7bec.jpg) (http://s629.photobucket.com/user/gabor-lastovic/media/RC%20terep/IMG_7702_zps016b7bec.jpg.html)

(http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu12/gabor-lastovic/RC%20terep/IMG_7707_zps7670cedf.jpg) (http://s629.photobucket.com/user/gabor-lastovic/media/RC%20terep/IMG_7707_zps7670cedf.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Pilatus Porter pc 6
Post by: drjack on March 04, 2015, 08:02:46 PM

Gabore koliko se secam u prvom skoku mu se nije otvorio padobran, ali je zato u drugom bio uspesan :_D

Title: Re: Pilatus Porter pc 6
Post by: Gabor on March 04, 2015, 11:21:29 PM

Da, tako je bilo   :mhm

Title: Re: Pilatus Porter pc 6
Post by: Dakyle on February 14, 2016, 06:19:02 PM

Da obnovim malo temu.  Pocelo sklapanje jednog Pilatusa, planirano da prvi let bude krajem krajem leta ako sve ide po planu.

(http://i1027.photobucket.com/albums/y332/dakyle75/Pilatus%20Porter%20PC-6/IMG_20160117_214316_zpsztfyu206.jpg) (http://s1027.photobucket.com/user/dakyle75/media/Pilatus%20Porter%20PC-6/IMG_20160117_214316_zpsztfyu206.jpg.html)

(http://i1027.photobucket.com/albums/y332/dakyle75/Pilatus%20Porter%20PC-6/IMG_20160118_234832_zpsaxg7tvop.jpg) (http://s1027.photobucket.com/user/dakyle75/media/Pilatus%20Porter%20PC-6/IMG_20160118_234832_zpsaxg7tvop.jpg.html)

(http://i1027.photobucket.com/albums/y332/dakyle75/Pilatus%20Porter%20PC-6/IMG_20160120_000220_zpsovuemped.jpg) (http://s1027.photobucket.com/user/dakyle75/media/Pilatus%20Porter%20PC-6/IMG_20160120_000220_zpsovuemped.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Pilatus Porter pc 6
Post by: Dakyle on February 14, 2016, 06:20:26 PM

(http://i1027.photobucket.com/albums/y332/dakyle75/Pilatus%20Porter%20PC-6/IMG_20160123_051719_zps4ijbrupr.jpg) (http://s1027.photobucket.com/user/dakyle75/media/Pilatus%20Porter%20PC-6/IMG_20160123_051719_zps4ijbrupr.jpg.html)

(http://i1027.photobucket.com/albums/y332/dakyle75/Pilatus%20Porter%20PC-6/IMG_20160123_043039_zpsz1lrnext.jpg) (http://s1027.photobucket.com/user/dakyle75/media/Pilatus%20Porter%20PC-6/IMG_20160123_043039_zpsz1lrnext.jpg.html)

(http://i1027.photobucket.com/albums/y332/dakyle75/Pilatus%20Porter%20PC-6/IMG_20160123_211732_zpst9nypuo4.jpg) (http://s1027.photobucket.com/user/dakyle75/media/Pilatus%20Porter%20PC-6/IMG_20160123_211732_zpst9nypuo4.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Pilatus Porter pc 6
Post by: Dakyle on February 14, 2016, 06:21:00 PM

(http://i1027.photobucket.com/albums/y332/dakyle75/Pilatus%20Porter%20PC-6/IMG_20160123_051723_zpsbivsl18j.jpg) (http://s1027.photobucket.com/user/dakyle75/media/Pilatus%20Porter%20PC-6/IMG_20160123_051723_zpsbivsl18j.jpg.html)

(http://i1027.photobucket.com/albums/y332/dakyle75/Pilatus%20Porter%20PC-6/IMG_20160123_211606_zpsd9hdpg98.jpg) (http://s1027.photobucket.com/user/dakyle75/media/Pilatus%20Porter%20PC-6/IMG_20160123_211606_zpsd9hdpg98.jpg.html)

(http://i1027.photobucket.com/albums/y332/dakyle75/Pilatus%20Porter%20PC-6/IMG_20160204_024637_zps20sqntn3.jpg) (http://s1027.photobucket.com/user/dakyle75/media/Pilatus%20Porter%20PC-6/IMG_20160204_024637_zps20sqntn3.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Pilatus Porter pc 6
Post by: Dakyle on February 14, 2016, 06:21:33 PM

(http://i1027.photobucket.com/albums/y332/dakyle75/Pilatus%20Porter%20PC-6/IMG_20160204_015903_zpswaxao0dv.jpg) (http://s1027.photobucket.com/user/dakyle75/media/Pilatus%20Porter%20PC-6/IMG_20160204_015903_zpswaxao0dv.jpg.html)

(http://i1027.photobucket.com/albums/y332/dakyle75/Pilatus%20Porter%20PC-6/IMG_20160204_015903_zpswaxao0dv.jpg) (http://s1027.photobucket.com/user/dakyle75/media/Pilatus%20Porter%20PC-6/IMG_20160204_015903_zpswaxao0dv.jpg.html)

(http://i1027.photobucket.com/albums/y332/dakyle75/Pilatus%20Porter%20PC-6/IMG_20160204_015853_zpshtzlafvy.jpg) (http://s1027.photobucket.com/user/dakyle75/media/Pilatus%20Porter%20PC-6/IMG_20160204_015853_zpshtzlafvy.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Pilatus Porter pc 6
Post by: Dakyle on February 14, 2016, 06:22:07 PM

(http://i1027.photobucket.com/albums/y332/dakyle75/Pilatus%20Porter%20PC-6/IMG_20160205_012537_zps0cx1lnjb.jpg) (http://s1027.photobucket.com/user/dakyle75/media/Pilatus%20Porter%20PC-6/IMG_20160205_012537_zps0cx1lnjb.jpg.html)

(http://i1027.photobucket.com/albums/y332/dakyle75/Pilatus%20Porter%20PC-6/IMG_20160208_210214_zpsazevkz9h.jpg) (http://s1027.photobucket.com/user/dakyle75/media/Pilatus%20Porter%20PC-6/IMG_20160208_210214_zpsazevkz9h.jpg.html)

(http://i1027.photobucket.com/albums/y332/dakyle75/Pilatus%20Porter%20PC-6/IMG_20160213_203736_zpsqaihs6fs.jpg) (http://s1027.photobucket.com/user/dakyle75/media/Pilatus%20Porter%20PC-6/IMG_20160213_203736_zpsqaihs6fs.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Pilatus Porter pc 6
Post by: Dakyle on February 14, 2016, 06:22:41 PM

(http://i1027.photobucket.com/albums/y332/dakyle75/Pilatus%20Porter%20PC-6/IMG_20160209_020704_zpsigq4fw0d.jpg) (http://s1027.photobucket.com/user/dakyle75/media/Pilatus%20Porter%20PC-6/IMG_20160209_020704_zpsigq4fw0d.jpg.html)

(http://i1027.photobucket.com/albums/y332/dakyle75/Pilatus%20Porter%20PC-6/IMG_20160209_032914_zpswtyixxnw.jpg) (http://s1027.photobucket.com/user/dakyle75/media/Pilatus%20Porter%20PC-6/IMG_20160209_032914_zpswtyixxnw.jpg.html)

(http://i1027.photobucket.com/albums/y332/dakyle75/Pilatus%20Porter%20PC-6/IMG_20160209_020756_zpsxrnmb17j.jpg) (http://s1027.photobucket.com/user/dakyle75/media/Pilatus%20Porter%20PC-6/IMG_20160209_020756_zpsxrnmb17j.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Pilatus Porter pc 6
Post by: Dakyle on February 14, 2016, 06:23:19 PM

(http://i1027.photobucket.com/albums/y332/dakyle75/Pilatus%20Porter%20PC-6/IMG_20160209_010757_zpskq0qaqkk.jpg) (http://s1027.photobucket.com/user/dakyle75/media/Pilatus%20Porter%20PC-6/IMG_20160209_010757_zpskq0qaqkk.jpg.html)

(http://i1027.photobucket.com/albums/y332/dakyle75/Pilatus%20Porter%20PC-6/IMG_20160209_032941_zpsrmha09sm.jpg) (http://s1027.photobucket.com/user/dakyle75/media/Pilatus%20Porter%20PC-6/IMG_20160209_032941_zpsrmha09sm.jpg.html)

(http://i1027.photobucket.com/albums/y332/dakyle75/Pilatus%20Porter%20PC-6/IMG_20160214_022051_zpsej8n2yc7.jpg) (http://s1027.photobucket.com/user/dakyle75/media/Pilatus%20Porter%20PC-6/IMG_20160214_022051_zpsej8n2yc7.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Pilatus Porter pc 6
Post by: Dakyle on February 14, 2016, 06:28:09 PM

(http://i1027.photobucket.com/albums/y332/dakyle75/Pilatus%20Porter%20PC-6/IMG_20160214_022113_zpsbctvdtah.jpg) (http://s1027.photobucket.com/user/dakyle75/media/Pilatus%20Porter%20PC-6/IMG_20160214_022113_zpsbctvdtah.jpg.html)

(http://i1027.photobucket.com/albums/y332/dakyle75/Pilatus%20Porter%20PC-6/IMG_20160214_022137_zpsh3cktlet.jpg) (http://s1027.photobucket.com/user/dakyle75/media/Pilatus%20Porter%20PC-6/IMG_20160214_022137_zpsh3cktlet.jpg.html)

Trup polako napreduje, aktivno se radi na kapotazu, stajnom trapu i preatecim elementima za model, ciljam neku projektovanu tezinu izmedju 12-13kg, mada ako model ide na farbanje a ne folijanje definitivno ce se prebaciti ova tezina.

Title: Re: Pilatus Porter pc 6
Post by: stevapn on February 14, 2016, 06:38:32 PM

Lepo. Jedno pitanjce...
Zasto nema pegle na svakoj slici? To mi je omiljeni detalj. :)

Title: Re: Pilatus Porter pc 6
Post by: bjanko on February 14, 2016, 06:43:21 PM

Bravo Darko Porter pc 6 pravi izbor evo ti jedan sajt o njima ima milion slika http://www.pc-6.com/history/2092.htm

Title: Re: Pilatus Porter pc 6
Post by: bjanko on February 14, 2016, 06:45:53 PM

U gornjem desnom uglu imas strelicu i samo listas prelep avion koliko ja znam on drzi rekord u sletanju sleteo je na najvisu tacku negde ako se ne varam

Title: Re: Pilatus Porter pc 6
Post by: Sava on February 14, 2016, 06:59:16 PM

Ako već planirate da ga farbate radi skala izgleda najmanje će težine dobiti ako radite sa Oratex folijom koja ima strukturu kao svila, a radi se peglom kao Oracover. Bele je boje i veoma lako se farba. Težina je neznatno veća nego klasično presvlačenje Oracoverom. Klasično farbanje sa sve gitovima će ga nepotrebno otežati.
Težak model ja lepa maketa. Lagan model je dobar avion. Jeste to velik model i može da bude malo teži, ali pitanje je koliko teži. Povećana težina pravi mnogo problema, od poletanja pa sve do sletanja.  Dugo sam u ovom poslu i još nisam napravio model dovoljno lagan da bih bio zadovoljan, uvek mislim moglo još lakše.
Ovo su moja viđenja i nisu nikakve kritike, naprotiv, veoma lepo je odrađeno.
Pozdrav iz SM    :)aplauz

Title: Re: Pilatus Porter pc 6
Post by: dejan_ts on February 14, 2016, 07:42:07 PM

radovi su poceli koliko mogu da vidim i veoma mi se svidja sto si poceo od nule ,shto je jako interesantno i za tebe i za nas posmatrace

kao shto rece cika Sava tezi da napravi shto lakshi model a shto veci ,to je moguce cika Savo ali onda pripada grupi ultra lakih modela koje nemogu da se lete napolju,raditi sve od fine probrane balze i eto ultra lakog modela ,ali da ne skrecem sa ove teme


Darko svaka cast na poduhvatu i da ce bog zdravlja da se to vine u nebo kako treba

sto se tice presvlake ja se u potpunosti slazem sa cika Savom u vezi oratexta ,dozvoljava da se farba ,lepo se zateze i prijanja uz konstrukciju i neshto je drugaciji od orakovera ali nacin baratanja sa oratextom je kao i sa orakoverom ,pegla i samo pici

ako se cimash sa staklenim tkanjem i smolom ,balza ce dosta toga upiti u sebe i otezace model a to ti nije bash cilj ,gde je staklo tu mora i kit da padne pa smirglanje pa ponovo spric kit i onda ode na tezinu
model je ceo plankiran i to bogami 3mm balzom koliko znam ,mislim da nema potrebe za staklom i smolom  a i sama konstrukcija kao sto se vidi iz datog mislim da netreba preterivati sa laminiranjem

vidi na tebi je da odlucish a mi ce da posmatramo i dajemo nase sugestije

Title: Re: Pilatus Porter pc 6
Post by: Decky on February 14, 2016, 08:28:55 PM

Da se uključim i ja sa nastavkom radova od pozadi 😊 tj od repa

Title: Re: Pilatus Porter pc 6
Post by: Dakyle on February 14, 2016, 09:54:30 PM

Quote from: Sava on February 14, 2016, 06:59:16 PM

Ako već planirate da ga farbate radi skala izgleda najmanje će težine dobiti ako radite sa Oratex folijom koja ima strukturu kao svila, a radi se peglom kao Oracover. Bele je boje i veoma lako se farba. Težina je neznatno veća nego klasično presvlačenje Oracoverom. Klasično farbanje sa sve gitovima će ga nepotrebno otežati.
Težak model ja lepa maketa. Lagan model je dobar avion. Jeste to velik model i može da bude malo teži, ali pitanje je koliko teži. Povećana težina pravi mnogo problema, od poletanja pa sve do sletanja.  Dugo sam u ovom poslu i još nisam napravio model dovoljno lagan da bih bio zadovoljan, uvek mislim moglo još lakše.
Ovo su moja viđenja i nisu nikakve kritike, naprotiv, veoma lepo je odrađeno.
Pozdrav iz SM    :)aplauz

Hvala na sugestijama i smernicama. Upoznat sam  sa Oratex folijom, Jeste cilj Scala izgled, videcu do koje mere cu ici sa Scala detaljima (nitne, detalji iz kokpita, svetla i ostalo..) u svakom slucaju odluka ce pasti kada vidim na koju cu tezinu doci gotov-ne finisiran model izgledom. Kalasicna Oracover folija definitivno nece ici..Trenutno mi je cilj da kompletiram trup da se pomerim sa poda ukocih se ziv a radni sto od 1,7 metara mi je mali za trup. Sledeci problem mi je kvaliteno drvo za ramenjacu - nemam ga u dovoljnoj duzini..ima li neko da ponudi ili da predlog sta odraditi a ne nastvljati ga.

Title: Re: Pilatus Porter pc 6
Post by: misha on February 15, 2016, 12:09:21 AM

Deki, samo vodi racuna o tezini.
Iz licnog iskustva, mislim da je bitnija manja tezina od scala izgleda.
Sto se ramenjaca tice slobodno ih nastavljaj.

Title: Re: Pilatus Porter pc 6
Post by: Sava on February 15, 2016, 07:40:02 AM

Ako planirate model za takmičenje u klasi F4C, onda treba zanemariti težinu u meri da model bude što približniji originalu. Pretpostavljam da će prvenstveno služiti za aerodrom, te u tom slučaju treba raditi semy scale model koji treba dobro da leti. Kod teških modela postavlja se odmah pitanje stajnog trapa i brzine na sletanju, uz još masu drugih problema. Teško je odrediti granicu težine i čvrstine, uvek su jedna na uštrb druge. Tu je prednost proverenih planova od proverenih firmi. Ovakav model se radi možda jednom u modelarskoj karijeri. Što se ramenjača tiče potpuno zadovoljava smrekovo drvo i netreba izbegavati nastavljanje, naravno pravi nastavak, a ne nešto improvizovano.
Pozdrav,   4e

Title: Re: Pilatus Porter pc 6
Post by: bjanko on February 15, 2016, 07:57:13 AM

Darko ako imas neki sto za rad moze i manji lakse ti je da radis ako je manji kupis plocu od univera 18 mm recimo 200x 60 cm najjeftinjeg i stavis na sto i lakse i bolje raditi vec na podu .Kad stavis tu plocu na sto mozes lakse koristiti i stege i ostala pomagala
Pozdrav i samo napred ()-()

Title: Re: Pilatus Porter pc 6
Post by: Dakyle on February 15, 2016, 11:41:53 AM

Naravno, nece se raditi nista na ustrb letnih karakteristika.. Model ce svakako sluziti za letenje a ne samo za pokazivanje.Sto se radnog stola tice-sve uslove imam a moja glupost je resila da trup zavrsi na podu. Ja sam model poceo od trupa, Deki od repa a koliko sam upucen sklapa se ili je u pripremi sklapanja i treci model Pilatusa po istom kit-u.

Title: Re: Pilatus Porter pc 6
Post by: Dakyle on February 15, 2016, 07:38:12 PM

Jedan od lepsih bar po mom ukusu , sve radjeno oracover-om
(http://forum.modelarji.com/download/file.php?id=204821)

Title: Re: Pilatus Porter pc 6
Post by: bjanko on March 04, 2016, 06:45:39 PM

Kako napreduje pilatus Porter jel se radi sta (work)

Title: Re: Pilatus Porter pc 6
Post by: Dakyle on March 04, 2016, 10:20:36 PM

Rade se koliko ja znam 2 modela. Ja radim jedan i jedan Deki iz Cacka Ja sam krenuo od  trupa i doveo trup do faze kada treba da predjem na krila, vertikalac i horizontalac. Od sutra se krece na te delove. Inace kapotaz je u izradi, napravljenje rolnice za bajonet, stajni trap je  u razradi i trebalo bi i on uskoro da bude gotov.

Title: Re: Pilatus Porter pc 6
Post by: fantombp on June 14, 2016, 12:26:59 PM

Zahvaljući tebi radiće se i treći pilatus u Bačkoj Palanci.

Title: Pilatus Porter pc 6
Post by: Gabor on July 27, 2018, 03:39:08 PM

Taj treći Pilatus je tokom zime preleteo do moje radionice   :big smile

(http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu12/gabor-lastovic/Pilatus%20PC-6/IMG_20180121_221037.jpg)

Kako se vidi na slici, trup je delimično odrađen, tako da radove sam nastavio sa izradom krila

(http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu12/gabor-lastovic/Pilatus%20PC-6/kollpc6.jpg) (http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu12/gabor-lastovic/Pilatus%20PC-6/kollpc6-2.jpg)

Dok se sušio lepak, paralelno sam radio i na vertikalnom stabilizatoru i na kormilu pravca

(http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu12/gabor-lastovic/Pilatus%20PC-6/kollpc6-3.jpg) (http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/uu12/gabor-lastovic/Pilatus%20PC-6/kollpc6-5.jpg)